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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par ibris » 04 Mai 2018 12:16

Alors ok mais toi tu parles du forum la ?

Pour moi l'idée justement pour structurer c'est de se reposer plus sur le site et moins sur le forum.

A savoir que le site serait étoffé de pas mal d'infos diverses et variées comme justement les vendeurs de pièces. Pas vraiment de discussion à part un système de commentaires et de notations comme sur les sites de vente type Amazon afin d'avoir "l'avis du public" sur les pros

Dans la partie technique, typiquement ça collerait avec ce que je pensais du wiki. Donc des sections comme tu me le proposes avec des personnes qui agrémentent les sujets justement structurés et sans discussions. Avec des infos en retour de sujet "résolus & traités" sur le forum

Le forum un peu fourre tout en mode hall de gare. on discute et rien n'est vraiment fait pour rester, on est dans l'éphémère, quitte à supprimer un message clos qui aurait été porté sur le wiki ou une sortie rapatriée dans l'album photo de la région qui l'a fait.

Donc la question que je me pose c'est, pas mal de détail dans les sections du forum où les infos sont filtrées et triées par les personnes en chargent. Par contre dans le forum, vu le volume de sujets traités en simultané, peut-être ne pas étoffer trop pour ne pas perdre les utilisateurs, l'intérêt du forum c'est d'être le haut de l'entonnoire et le site le bas avec un filtre tamisé :p

Que penses-tu de tout ça ?
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par ibris » 04 Mai 2018 12:35

Tiens un exemple de wiki que je tiens avec un pote, on ne l'utilise que pour nous mais en moins de deux mois il s'est pas mal étoffé.
En gros quand l'un utilise un truc utile pour nous style ligne de commande ou manipulation technique etc et qu'on se dit, tient ça peut resservir, hop on fait un petit article.
Déjà ça permet de mettre à profil des recherches faites sur un sujet pour la mise à niveau ou la réparation. Ça peut resservir si le problème nous revient, alors c'est très facile de remettre la main dessus. Si un autre a un problème ou cherche un outil utile alors il est peut-être déjà présent et ça permet d'avoir un sujet structuré sans chercher 2 heures sur ton moteur de recherche préféré (le miens c'est Qwant :p ) à recouper des sources pour avoir un truc qui tient la route.
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par crayon » 04 Mai 2018 12:42

Alors oui, je parlais du forum... mais j'ai zappé le site lui-même. :shifty:

C'est pas mal ton arborescence, c'est une mise en page clair et lisible, une piste à suivre...

Très juste de faire des rubriques dans le site qui donnent des infos mais où les discussions n'y ont pas leur place (il y a le forum pour ça).
Ce serai comme un gros catalogue de ressources (comme tu le proposais) et le modo ajouterai lui-même les infos pertinentes. C'est bien, ça évite les doublons (voir bien plus) .

Pour le forum, mon idée était de structurer un peu les domaines techniques afin de regrouper les sujets au bon endroit.
En ce moment, on a de tout partout, de nouveaux post dans la mauvaise rubrique, du coup c'est galère pour retrouver l'info.
Dès qu'une info est "pertinente", elle devrait rejoindre le "site" comme info de référence. Après, la discussion peut se poursuivre sur le post concerné afin que les autres utilisateurs puissent savoir quel est le dénouement du problème.

Mise à part le site lui-même (je te laisse décider de la politique d'information), je pense que sur le forum il devrait y avoir un temps de validation pour tout nouveau sujet. Ceci permettrai de contrôler l'intitulé et voir si le sujet n'est pas déjà traité ailleurs, qu'en penses-tu?
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par ibris » 04 Mai 2018 12:57

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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par crayon » 04 Mai 2018 12:58

J'ai eu un flas en me rappelant que sur RockAuto, c'était top pour naviguer, tiens, un exemple: https://www.rockauto.com/fr/catalog/for ... plug,10231
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par bigdaley » 04 Mai 2018 13:22

Et bien moi, je dis ''chapeau les gars'' !

Je consulte régulièrement le forum, pour poser des questions, faires des commentaires plus ou moins sérieux, ou lire des sujets sur le forum sans forcément intervenir, notamment toutes les restaurations ou questions techniques sur les anciennes (mais parfois aussi sur les récentes ... car il ne sert à rien de ne pas savoir, ou aucune ignorance n'est utile !)

Après, je crois qu'une fois l'arborescence trouvée et la question entre forum/rubriques tranchée, il faut s'y tenir et ne pas dérouter l'utilisateur régulier en changeant l'ordre des choses, un peu comme les magasins qui changent régulièrement d'emplacement en se disant, ''le client va tomber sur autre chose, qu'il achètera en plus''. Moi cela me donne plutôt envie d'aller voir ailleurs ... c'est mon côté retors ! :D

A la maison, c'est pareil, la bouteille de rhum est toujours à la même place ... à côté de celle de Gin ... et je ne vous parle même pas de ma cave à vin !
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par crayon » 04 Mai 2018 14:33

... moi aussi, je dors toujours du même côté, sinon je trouve plus ma femme!!! :laughing-rolling:

Sérieusement, oui, il faut pas changer une fois en place, j'aime pas devoir fouiner 15 jours pour retrouver un truc qui a changé de place... :angry-jumpinganger:
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par ibris » 04 Mai 2018 19:32

On peut avoir une phase de mise au point mais je suis d'accord si on refait le bazard chaque quinzaine ! Ils ont déménagé mon fournisseur de bière j'ai failli défaillir :lol:

Bon si je fais ça bien je mettrais une maquette en ligne avant si besoin.

Là je n'en suis qu'à la conception, je grab un max d'idées qui me viennent pour avoir un truc logique et qui couvre les besoins, j'aimerais un Après viendra la phase de recherche meme si je sais en ros oùje vais ce n'est pas ma partie le web (mais je trouve ça rigolo :p ).
Puis déploiement en local sur mon serveur apache pour implémenter le tout et puis GO ! :)
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par crayon » 05 Mai 2018 08:07

Pour les novices, on pourrait incruster une mini-vignette de la section visitée (un moteur pour "Moteur", un radiateur pour "Refroidissement")...?
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Message par mustangfamily » 05 Mai 2018 09:27

Dans ma vie professionnelle j'ai participé par 2 fois à la création et la mise en place d'ERP.
J'ai remarqué qu'il y a la vue des informatitiens avec leur logique et celle des utilisateurs avec leurs besoins. Parfois elles coincides mais pas toujours.
Tout cela pour dire que c'est un travail titanesque et que les échanges nombreux devrai êtres structurés.
Je me fais volontairement l'avocat du diable mais déjà avant de construire une usine à gaz, que pensent les utilisateurs de la forme du forum actuel.
Je ne remet en aucun cas en cause la necessité technique de changer ce qui permettra de faire évoluer notre forum plus facilement, mais plus on sera dans le détail plus il y aura de travail pour les personnes qui en auront la charges. Personnellement je suis pour le changement mais attention parfois le mieux et l'ennemi du bien.
Bien sur je suis dispo pour faire avancer le schmilblick.
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Message par crayon » 05 Mai 2018 10:02

Tu as raison mustangfamily, on dérape vite sur ce point.
Le problème, c'est que si tu sépare pas bien les domaines, tu te retrouves avec tout... n'importe où!!!
Alors oui, faut être vigilant mais Bertrand doit savoir ce qu'il fait.
Un premier jet permet de sentir la tendance et si on voit des incohérences, on peut rectifier rapidement.
Pour ce qui est du forum actuel, c'est pas mal mais pas assez rigoureux dans les rubriques...
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Message par Peyrolade » 25 Juin 2018 14:26

désolé de poluer le post... Mais je recherche mon post sur la délégations Midi Pyrénées..... je ne le trouve pas malgré le bouton rechercher.... Bref vous comprenez pk nous sommes nombreux à ne plus diffuser d'info sur le site c'est une vrai galère :)
Je suis assez débordé pour suivre l'avancé du site... Va t'on avoir prochainement nos rubriques délégations...
Eb attebdabt vous pouvez nous suivre sur FB...https://www.facebook.com/groups/940283709373907/ ( MCF Midi Pyrénées) pour suivre notre actualité et nos sorties...
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Message par ibris » 25 Juin 2018 15:22

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Message par Peyrolade » 25 Juin 2018 19:42

EN effet , je n'y met rien parce qu'il n'est pas lisible... il s'agit bien de 2017... :) Il ne s'agit pas que de rencard.. je pense qu'il faudrait une rubrique par délégation qui soit administré par le délégué( ou qq'un que ce dernier choisit) plus bien entendu les admins plus généraux du forum...

Comme cela si c'est le bordel... le délégué en sera responsable...
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Message par spiroucc » 13 Juil 2018 17:16

Je sais le travail que représente une refonte complète d'un site et d'un forum. J'ai fait cela il y a quelques années pour un forum automobile également.
juste une petite remarque technique (pour l'instant). Il faudrait modifier les permaliens dans le menu administrateur je trouve. il faudrait aussi modifier l'adresse du site "https://www.mustangclubdefrance.com/wordpress/" . wordpress est en trop.
Perso, pour les tests je le fait plutôt en local que directement afin de ne pas gonfler la base de données et ralentir de le site
Après, bravo pour le boulot. Je sais qu'il y a encore du taf.
Désolé de ne pas être plus présent en ce moment sur le forum ou lors des différents meetings mais 2018 et une année trés prenante en temps
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Message par ibris » 16 Juil 2018 11:16

Hello,
Je ne fais pas de test en prod mise à part le changement de skin et l'ajustement de l'intégration du du forum dans le site.
Pour le développement et la pré-prod je travaille sur une VM debian que j'utilise pour des projets en client léger.
C'est pas tant le temps que ça prend que le temps qui me manque pour le faire en dehors du taf. Je travaille sur des projets beaucoup plus costaud que ça au boulot mais qui sont différents également et comme à chaque fois il faut appréhender et se familiariser avec la techno. Je déploie en ce moment (entre autre) une infra pour un site sous Sitecore c'est vraiment intéressant tout comme un site comme celui-là mais il faut aussi penser aux autres personnes qui seraient amener à prendre ma place et le truc doit être administrable facilement et bien documenté.

Pour les liens, je préfère ne pas toucher pour l'instant pour que ça ne me pète pas à la figure, il va de soit que la nouvelle install aura un paramétrage plus affûté et robuste pour gommer les petites failles présentes sur celui existant. Bon tous ces réglages ont fait le boulot jusqu'à maintenant donc je préfère laisser tout ça finir son job en l'état.

Après, tous les conseils sont bon à prendre, donc je note tout ce qu'on m'apporte ici ;)
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par crayon » 02 Sep 2018 09:48

Salut Bertrand, en forme?

Dis moi, pourquoi a-t-on toujours cette partie "vilaine" sur la page du forum?
Normal ou pas?
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par ibris » 05 Sep 2018 11:00

Normal non pas vraiment, c'est quand j'ai bricolé pour installer les certificats de sécurité sur le serveur, l'intégration de phpBB n'a visiblement pas trop apprécié.
J'ai discrètement eu pas mal de downtime sur le site en pleine journée que j'ai réussi à remettre en ligne non sans mal :shifty:
Du coup j'ai préféré laisser comme ça pour l'instant et je t'avoue que je n'arrive pas à trouver un moment pour avancer, bon il y a le petit cadenas vert en haut, c'est joli :mrgreen:

D'ailleurs quand on veut se logger sur le site en fait ça redirige sur le forum, la faute au certificat aussi.

C'est un peu une usine à gaz et il y a beaucoup de bricolage et de dossiers inutiles sur le serveur, j'ai isolé pas mal de trucs non utilisés. Je m'y repencherai dans quelque temps... ça n'arrête jamais...
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par crayon » 06 Sep 2018 08:22

Aaaahhhhh... les joies de l'informatique!!! :sad-roulette:
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Message par carlos06 » 22 Sep 2018 12:25

salut,
A chaque fois que je dois me connecter , il me demande tout !! meme si je me suis deja enregistré??
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Message par ibris » 24 Sep 2018 10:08

Tu veux dire que quand tu reviens sur le site, il te redemande de te connecter ? ou quand tu te connectes sur la page principale ça te redirige sur le forum ou tu dois le faire une deuxième fois ?
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Message par carlos06 » 24 Sep 2018 10:38

oui c'est cela une deuxieme fois lorsque je reviens sur la page principale.
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Message par ibris » 24 Sep 2018 11:16

J'ai modifier la page d'accueil dont le formulaire de connexion dysfonctionnait. Il y a maintenant un lien "connexion" qui rapatrie sur le formulaire de connexion du forum, c'est plus fonctionnel comme ça et plus sécurisé car la page du site envoyait les informations en clair.
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Message par carlos06 » 24 Sep 2018 12:46

effectivement ca fonctionne beaucoup mieux
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Message par crayon » 24 Sep 2018 13:05

Il est trop fort cet ibris... :mrgreen:
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Message par ibris » 24 Sep 2018 14:33

Sincèrement l'état actuel du site ne me plait pas du tout, je peine à trouver le temps pour faire ce que j'aimerais, je pense que je me prend la tête aussi et je devrais y aller petit à petit.
Quand on restaure une caisse on ne la fait pas dans la journée il faut dire, pour le site il faut que je fasse pareil :)
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Message par crayon » 06 Oct 2018 11:07

Hello les amis!
Il y a un truc qui me dérange passablement quand je parcours un post, c'est de devoir "jouer" avec ma molette 3 jours pour atteindre le haut de page! :angry-fire:
Ne pourrais-t-on pas avoir un bouton (en bas de post) marqué "HAUT DE PAGE"?
Ce serai tellement plus confortable... ;)
Je sais que tu as la recette, allez, ne soit pas timide, tu peux le faire!!! :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par Olive74 » 06 Oct 2018 12:38

Et moi chaque fois que je viens sur un sujet suite à une notification ça m'ouvre en haut de page ... Et je joue de la molette pour descendre :mrgreen:
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par crayon » 08 Oct 2018 09:57

Oui, moi aussi, sur cette partie supérieure très moche... :whistle:
Cependant, quand tu parcours un post qui a 25 pages et que tu arrives en bas de l'une d'elle et bin faut aussi jouer de la molette 3 jours pour refaire surface!!! :happy-partydance:
Au bout de 10 pages consultées, si tu sais que l'info se trouvait en bas mais que tu sais plus sur laquelle (de page), bonjour la galère de navigation... :roll:
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Re: PROJET : Evolution du site & du forum

Message par ibris » 08 Oct 2018 10:22

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